So the first program I wanted to do a full scale review on was the one I am intimately familiar with. I have decided to use Joe Schroeder’s program as my first official review. I’m going to give you what I feel is a good honest overview of the system and the pros and cons of the entire system. Are you ready?
Joe Schroeder:
Let’s start first by talking about Joe Schroeder himself. Who is this Joe Schroeder guy and why should anyone listen to him? Let’s answer that first:
Joe has a long record with the Network Marketing industry and has been doing this since 1979. He believes in capitalism and the American Dream. He knows others can do it and it frustrates him when people just don’t get it.
He started out by giving away free packets of laundry detergent with the goal of selling lots more down the road off the people he gave it to. He was also a full time magician and even sold meat and seafood door to door. Joe is a guy from humble beginnings who believes that the words “I Can’t” are dead. Anything that you set your mind to, you can do!
Here’s a guy who created a $5,000,000 annual business from a spare bedroom in his home and created a walk-away RESIDUAL income in three businesses. Those business are “Joe, The Meatman Foods; ForMor International, and of course MLM Big Fish.
Joe Schroeder has also been on the cover of magazines UPLINE, Small Business, Profit Now, and Cutting Edge. He has even won first place magician in Magic Symposium and fourth place in the World Cup of Magic.
Joe is a strong family man and lives with his wife, Vincenza, and two daughters Gracie (12), and Jessie (8) in
Joe has a very STRONG and almost fanatical desire to show that capitalism and the American dream are achievable and he believes that through MLM this is possible. He believes that people come first and if they would only believe in themselves that they could even change the economy and change entire populations and market shares. He’s a guy with a passion for what he does and it shows in his books, audios and yes when you talk to him on the phone.
Joe firmly believes that if you want to make it in this industry that you must erase yourself from the equation first and allow the products that you promote speak for you. He provides the content that people so desperately need to achieve his kind of success.
Joe only works around 4-6 hours a week! He does this with his strong network that works for him. The system is always working for him even when he isn’t. This is nothing short of marketing genius and a goal that many should strive for.
The Products:
FREE!!!
The system starts off very easy. Usually a prospect will join one of his mailing lists or stumble across one of the phone numbers for his training or recorded calls.
CHEAP!!
The real meat of the system begins with his Chaos 2 Cash program ($14.95) which makes it easy for anyone to get in. Even if you don’t have a lot of money, this first investment gets you a couple CDs and a booklet which some really good info.
Most people who can scrounge up around $97 should also invest in the Warriors Nest Manual. This gets you 2 more CD’s and a really great spiral bound book! These CD’s and book are just simply genius. I can’t say enough about them. When I read the book, I just kept turning the pages seeing how brilliant the system was.
Next up is the Amazing Increase book and CD which is also $97. I never personally got this one so I can’t speak a whole lot about it but what I can say is that if it is anything like the Warriors Nest, it will be worth it.
GETTING PRICEY:
The Magic, The Legend, The Prestige is the next part of Joe’s system which costs a whopping $197 for 6 CD’s. Again, I don’t have a lot of experience personally with these but I imagine they have to be good.
EXPENSIVE:
The main meat and potatoes of Joe’s program are two amazing products. First, is Spellbound, which sells for $597. Spellbound is 10 CD’s and 2 books which include his “Alpha Code Manual” which is the book that explains the psychology of the market. This is THE product to get in his program.
Next up is Project Big Fish which also sells for $597. This is for those who are really into Joe’s program and are looking for that content to get them started. This is a MUST have if you are considering doing Joe’s program.
WOAH NELLY EXPENSIVE:
The Theater of Prosperity package sells for $1397. However, this system is for the HARD CORE people who don’t want to just keep shelling out money for each of Joe’s programs one at a time. This package is the whole shebang. If you’re even considering anything at the expensive level, Big Fish & Spellbound, you might as well go ahead and just get the whole thing.
The REVIEW:
So here we are at the review. Are the products worth it? I can answer with a resounding YES. These products are the real deal. Let’s take an honest look here. In order to be able to resell any of the products you are going to have to shell out money for the webpage, the leads, and you might as well have all the products. You can do it with only a couple of the products purchased, but you still have to have the CONTENT in order to do it effectively. My personal feeling and from my own experience is if you can’t afford all of the content at once. Get a piece at a time and learn study, sit on the calls. Don’t worry about reselling or making anything yet. Let the information soak. Get your game face on and do it right the first time.
The COSTS / GETTING STARTED
I’m not holding anything back here. As I’ve stated, I’m giving a 100% honest review here, so here goes the breaking down of the costs if you were to get started making money with his system TODAY.
- You NEED the products to sell the products. At bare minimum you are looking at the Theater of Prosperity package which gives you everything for $1395.
- Website – This will cost you $19.95 a month PLUS a one time payment of $45 for setup. –or- if you are looking for that extra bit of help, which in my opinion you might as well get you are looking at $47.95 a month (includes Joe’s coaching) and a one time setup of $67.
- Lead Programs – This is where you build your residual income and the genius of the whole system. Not only are you selling products that are great, but here you are building your monthly residual income. Sweet.
- MLM MasterMind – This one is going to cost you a mere $7.95 for your first month, but after that is going to cost you $104.95 a month.
- LeadersClub – This one is going to cost you at least $80 a month plus a one time setup of $25.
So if we add this all up on the total out of pocket for your first month we are looking at bare minimum of $1552.95. That sounds about right if you are really serious about starting a business from your home. The monthly cost to maintain your business will be around $204.90.
THE INCOME POTENTIAL:
Like any good business out there, you are only limited by what you put into it. Don’t expect to just get the system and then sit back and do nothing. This is a business and as such you need to treat it as a business. You have to work at it and put yourself out there. It’s not hard, it will just take time and anyone can really do this!
Joe’s Products
| Product | Earn per |
| Chaos 2 Cash | $10 |
| Amazing Increase | $60 |
| Warriors Nest | $80 |
| Magic / Legend / Prestige | $100 |
| Spellbound | $200 / $200 |
| BigFish | $200 / $200 |
| Theater of Prosperity | $800 |
Residual Programs:
Ok. The residual programs are a little more complex to just put into numbers but I’m going to attempt to explain these to you in simple terms:
MLM Mastermind – Basically it’s a 2-tier program. The first level pays 15% and the second level pays 40% for a total of 55%. In order to break even with this you should at least get 2 people under you and have those 2 people each sponsor 2 people. That will give you $190 a month. You can earn $700 a month by sponsoring 4 people and then having those 4 people get 4 people each. It goes on and on... The income looks good. However, keep in mind that you’re looking to try and find at least 4 people to join with you in the program.
LeadersClub – This program has a little more complicated structure that I am still trying to understand. From what I make of this one, you get up to around 30% on each of the personal referrals that you make. So you can earn up to around $300 with 15 people.
YEAR ONE COSTS
Here’s my formula: Products + (Monthly cost x 12). So that breaks down to $1552.95 + ($204.90 x 12) = $4011.75. Wow. That looks like a big number doesn’t it? So let’s do some more number games J. You figure you will need at least another $100 a month to do other advertising or mailing expenses. This is a bare min cost and I know I’d personally set aside at least $250 a month just to be safe. You’re looking at another $1200 to $3000 more for a year. So now you’re at $5211.75 or $7011.75 for your first year in business. Again, you need to realize that this is pretty much a normal business startup cost. It’s still CHEAP as heck to start this business.
FINAL SUMMARY:
I would take the strategy of first selling enough products to cover your costs. So you’d need to focus on bringing in that $204.90 as your first real goal. That should be your business goal each month at the bare minimum. However, you will prob want to recoup your money back for the program itself. If you divide that up by 12 and add in the monthly cost your looking to at least set your goal to earn at least $334.31 EVERY MONTH for your first year. I’m not even adding in your monthly costs for advertising or whatever else. This is just for the program and monthly expense.
So what would you have to sell in order to make that $334.31 every month? You would obviously focus on selling at least 1 Warriors Nest a week and 1 Chaos 2 Cash a month. If you could do that, then you would be set. I’d make that a goal and shoot for it.
It really does sound easy doesn’t it? Think about it, if you sold a theater of prosperity package you just got yourself $800. Your first few months though, I wouldn’t expect much because you’re out there building up your name and putting yourself out there. In a years time your earning potential is endless. Think about that.
Your next year would cost you $2794.80 for another year which is only $232.90 a month you’d have to make plus whatever advertising you would need to do. This program is a real winner in my eyes.
RECOMENDATION
I highly suggest you try this thing out if you can afford it. I’m going to lay down a few different scenarios for you.
LOW END:
What you need is 1 year of the website which comes out to $284.40. You also need at least the Chaos 2 Cash program as well as the Warriors Nest which comes out to $396.35. So for $400 you can get going. I always like to look at the 1 year picture. That way, you are covered. Sell your 1 warriors nest manual a month x 12 = $960 and your in profit $563.65 for the year. However, you will need to do free advertising. Heck, its worth it though don’t you think?
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